tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post3166845926691843967..comments2024-03-24T16:47:21.470-07:00Comments on A World of Englishes: ELF at university ..?Jane Setterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08213725380324824711noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-11387967715707695962013-05-01T12:53:55.070-07:002013-05-01T12:53:55.070-07:00'Good English', as the standard British En...'Good English', as the standard British English is usually referred to here in Nigeria, is necessary for good grades. Some exams instructions carry such statement like this 'good expression (which every student understands to mean , of course, Good English) will be rewarde.' Also, English is one of those core subjects one has to pass to be able to get admitssion to higher institutions -and what is tested in this Subject is not our popular creole, the Nigeria Pidgin English, but the very Good English.<br /> We love English as is written, and sometimes spoken by the NSs. Come to Naija and see how every one feigns to speak the Good English. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16654792203604768871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-39376170128041662902012-05-30T20:35:15.341-07:002012-05-30T20:35:15.341-07:00Hey there, BeBe!Hey there, BeBe!John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-78699605723505451522012-05-30T09:34:37.008-07:002012-05-30T09:34:37.008-07:00LOL! But on the other hand, being a NS doesn't...LOL! But on the other hand, being a NS doesn't necessarily mean your English is brilliant. I'm very tempted to go off on a rant here but will instead think calming thoughts. :)Jane Setterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08213725380324824711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-89568530080547101332012-05-30T08:04:59.895-07:002012-05-30T08:04:59.895-07:00Before I did the MA at Reading I looked at doing ...Before I did the MA at Reading I looked at doing it in a few other places. I abandoned my application to one particular university (not in the UK) when they insisted I provide an up to date TOEFL or IELTS score. It seems that somebody looked up my nationality and on discovering that Ireland has two official languages decided that the university couldn't take any chances....eamonnmcdonaghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07897129268585154483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-50873485135329508782012-05-30T03:15:13.740-07:002012-05-30T03:15:13.740-07:00Thanks Beatrice!Thanks Beatrice!Jane Setterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08213725380324824711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-26001716176284169752012-05-30T03:14:30.886-07:002012-05-30T03:14:30.886-07:00I actually know a NS based in the UK who was asked...I actually know a NS based in the UK who was asked to have a NS look at his paper. The mind boggles! And I've been asked to look at NNS colleague's paper and THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.Jane Setterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08213725380324824711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-52754267528169725542012-05-30T03:11:59.908-07:002012-05-30T03:11:59.908-07:00Yes, I was going to get into that here but decided...Yes, I was going to get into that here but decided the post would be too long.Jane Setterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08213725380324824711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-26217597086402547562012-05-30T00:47:59.710-07:002012-05-30T00:47:59.710-07:00About the page by the British Council, here are tw...About the page by the British Council, here are two aspects sistematically neglected by Spanish learners:<br />- The contrast between long and short vowels<br />- Nuclear stress (nobody seems to care or even to have heard about it)<br />On the other hand, we usually consider that word stress is an absolutely essential point.Beatrice Portinarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13626472955669713053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-76185415838628567142012-05-30T00:20:11.830-07:002012-05-30T00:20:11.830-07:00Or native and non-native speakers being kindly tur...Or native and non-native speakers being kindly turned down without being told why.<br /><br />(Hi, John!)Beatrice Portinarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13626472955669713053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-67015878646407968402012-05-29T15:11:41.735-07:002012-05-29T15:11:41.735-07:00Or worse yet, native speakers of English who live ...Or worse yet, native speakers of English who live in non-English-speaking countries being told the same thing.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-16215292575124926612012-05-29T12:45:27.753-07:002012-05-29T12:45:27.753-07:00There's also the question of academic publishi...There's also the question of academic publishing, NNSs writing perfectly comprehensible stuff getting it rejected and being told to have it checked by a NS - any NS, one presumes - because their text bears some signs of non-nativeness. This is extra amusing when it's plain that the negative peer review or editor's letter was itself written by an NNSeamonnmcdonaghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07897129268585154483noreply@blogger.com