tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post2666076609385531830..comments2024-03-24T16:47:21.470-07:00Comments on A World of Englishes: Supper's Ready - let's celebrate!Jane Setterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08213725380324824711noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-13939368499200952432013-06-20T08:01:08.165-07:002013-06-20T08:01:08.165-07:00Indeed, they are quite merged for me. However, I ...Indeed, they are quite merged for me. However, I pronounce <i>Rosa</i> with an unreduced vowel, so there is no question of merging <i>Rosa's</i> /ˈroʊzɑz/ and <i>roses</i> /ˈroʊzəz/.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-10106067905667112322013-05-26T12:19:36.996-07:002013-05-26T12:19:36.996-07:00They are for me too. I guess they wouldn't be...They are for me too. I guess they wouldn't be for John Cowan.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903436331309370627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-26603255609649370162013-05-23T08:19:00.573-07:002013-05-23T08:19:00.573-07:00They are indeed, Adam. /ˈmæsɪvˈklaʊd/ vs /ˈmæsəvˈk...They are indeed, Adam. /ˈmæsɪvˈklaʊd/ vs /ˈmæsəvˈklaʊd/.Jane Setterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08213725380324824711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-44981091268697249432013-05-23T05:31:24.514-07:002013-05-23T05:31:24.514-07:00Another pair I've come across is a massive clo...Another pair I've come across is <em>a massive cloud</em> vs. <em>a mass of cloud</em>. Are those distinct for you?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903436331309370627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-35410898862514903542013-05-18T20:11:21.581-07:002013-05-18T20:11:21.581-07:00I'm also American, but I'm not sure whethe...I'm also American, but I'm not sure whether I have this Weak Vowel Merger or not. A minimal pair that they give on Wikipedia is <em>Rosa's</em> vs. <em>roses</em>. Saying those the same (either with the <em>a</em> of <em>Rosa's</em> or the <em>e</em> of <em>roses</em>) sounds weird to me. I'm not sure why that counts as a minimal pair anyway. However, I don't make a distinction between <em>Lennon</em> and <em>Lenin</em>, though I hear the vowel at the end of both of those words as /ɪ/.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903436331309370627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-82887625679169450632013-05-16T23:09:47.740-07:002013-05-16T23:09:47.740-07:00Yes. It's the most widespread of the North Am...Yes. It's the most widespread of the North American mergers, pretty much in effect everywhere except Eastern New England, so I tend to forget about it. My overall "accent fingerprint" is TRAP=BAD=BATH=DANCE, LOT=PALM, NURSE=TERM=DIRT, FLEECE=BEAM, FACE=TRAIL=FREIGHT, THOUGHT=CLOTH, GOAT=SNOW, GOOSE=THREW, NORTH=FORCE.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-80865522522133179062013-05-15T02:35:12.128-07:002013-05-15T02:35:12.128-07:00Just got a response from Nad Sylvan himself. Turns...Just got a response from Nad Sylvan himself. Turns out he was born in the US but raised in Sweden. I would never have known this from his vocal performance.Jane Setterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08213725380324824711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-26103082133592429482013-05-15T02:34:00.746-07:002013-05-15T02:34:00.746-07:00You mean you have that merger?You mean you have that merger?Jane Setterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08213725380324824711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-57885165476007877492013-05-15T02:33:24.217-07:002013-05-15T02:33:24.217-07:00Very phonetic. I approve.Very phonetic. I approve.Jane Setterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08213725380324824711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-51347405274748620852013-05-13T16:15:27.245-07:002013-05-13T16:15:27.245-07:00I should have added the father-bother merger too.I should have added the <i>father-bother</i> merger too.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-60376148520025084192013-05-13T13:46:07.575-07:002013-05-13T13:46:07.575-07:00What about support act Anne-Marie Helder's fir...What about support act Anne-Marie Helder's first song, "Hadditfeel" (Not recorded, but that's how it's spelled)Tim (Kalyr)https://www.blogger.com/profile/00960811565368970485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-73380460521318826352013-05-13T08:08:32.206-07:002013-05-13T08:08:32.206-07:00Thanks John. Chicken with two different vowels doe...Thanks John. <i>Chicken</i> with two different vowels does not sound UK-ish at all. Jane Setterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08213725380324824711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817242166326386497.post-45095202355105157662013-05-13T07:40:12.825-07:002013-05-13T07:40:12.825-07:00The Weak Vowel Merger is common in North America t...The Weak Vowel Merger is common in North America too. I have it, and I'm 55 and have lived all my life in the Northeast, the most phonologically conservative part of the country, and grew up just outside the NYC isogloss bundle. My only real concessions to (notional) GenAm are rhoticity and the <i>hurry-furry</i> merger.<br /><br />It took me literally years to figure out for sure that I had it, though. Without equipment, your own unstressed vowels are mostly out of conscious awareness, and when you try to focus on them, they change Heisenberg-fashion. I finally convinced myself that I normally pronounce <i>chicken</i> with two different vowels, though.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.com